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Tuesday, May 25, 2010
36 Days And Counting
The gushing oil from British Petroleum's Gulf Coast well is washing up into the fragile wetlands. While BP officials scoff at the size and impact of the event, thousands of fishermen are idle, and in danger of permanently losing their livelihood. Aquatic and avian life are covered with sludge, and plants and algae are being decimated. A delicate ecosystem is being destroyed while Washington and BP engage in a slap-fight.
Louisiana's governor, Bobby Jindal, is fed up. He's constructing barriers in the outer islands whether the feds and BP like it or not. In tandem with Arizona's embattled governor, he is being forced to take federal matters into his own hands.
I applaud his efforts.
If oil was spewing into Lake Michigan, would this administration be standing around with their hands in their pockets? How about if there was a giant spill off Cape Cod?
Mr. Obama, you're supposed to be OUR president too. From a southern perspective, it doesn't appear that you care one fig about the catastrophe unfolding in the Gulf. I guess you'll care when the sludge begins creeping into the Chesapeake, up the Potomac, and onto the White House lawn.
Or maybe you won't.
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I am so angry about this. I'm angry because these idiots let this happen in the first place. I'm angry that no one seems to be able to fix it. I'm angry that more of our national resources aren't being utilized to solve this problem. I'm angry at BP's arrogance, and the inept hand-wringing of the Obama administration. I'm angry that BP made billions in profits last quarter, but yet we taxpayers will be footing a large part of the clean-up bill.
ReplyDeleteAre we a third-world country now? Should we pick up the phone and call a competent country to come help us clean up our mess?
You expect action from Ken Salazar, Interior Secretary, who is precisely qualified for not one whit of his job? No more than his predecessor. Or Janet Napolitano, similarly adept at zilch relating to her job?
ReplyDeleteHowever, the West Wing "Czars" like Carole Browner are dancing with glee and prefer the disaster lasts much longer...never waste a crisis, eh....make it your mission to illuminate it, not stop it.
Vis a vis Lake Michigan. We already know invasive species can ruin the lake. We already know the silver carp are a scant few miles from the lake in the Chicago River and canals...if not already nascent in the lake itself(?). Neither the Fed bureaucrats nor the federal courts see fit to order the canals and locks closed.
So, yeah, if the spill was in Lake Michigan, they'd still be sitting on their hands. Hell, it took them over 2+ years to get a handle on the Alewife infestation...and then it was Michigan and Wisconsin and Canada that acted, not the US Feds.
Cape Cod, maybe not...and it IS heading that way eventually via the Gulf Stream.
Obama appointed a gaggle of incompetent boobs (just like Bush 43 did).
ReplyDeleteThe VWAAs ("vultures with an agenda". Yeah, I made that up) like Emmanuel and Browner ARE dancing with glee. They're eating it up with a royal spoon, and laughing at our distress.
Obama fiddles.
Actually, your VWAA's are the government...the quadrennial elections merely appoint a titular figurehead anymore. They all recycle permanent Washington habituates. Rumsfeld (and Cheney) were left over from Nixon/Ford as a classic example. Browner is from Clinton's reign and before. Then there are the Congressional leadership incumbents from unassailable Districts who just linger on and on (Frank, Dodd, the Late Ted, Pelosi, et al., who eat their own if they do not comply with their demands...witness Dingell's pushing aside for Waxman over Cap & Trade, etc.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that neither party has any true bright lights willing to run that gauntlet...so the noisiest rise to the top.
Term limits, except for the Executive Office, is not the answer. We've got that here in Michigan...what a clown show joke. They all still manage to find a spot at the trough.
Truth is, I don't know if we can defeat this institutionalized government system of mediocrity anymore. When the "Hick Savant" and those she endorses get all the headlines I have to wonder. Don't worry about Rahm, though, he's heading back to Congress sooner than later...he wants Pelosi's job.
\Remember I said that.
meanwhile, our pres is going on a vacation over Memorial Day weekend.
ReplyDeletePamela, I doubt he'll be vacationing on Horn Island, off the Mississippi coast (he'd have to kick the dead dolphins out of the way so he could spread his beach blanket). x(
ReplyDeleteThere's 2 issues here with respect to the disaster response: capping the well, and dealing with the oil.
ReplyDeleteSecond issue first - I'm not up to speed on Jindal's barrier plans etc but if there are things which the Federal government could do, and isn't doing, and even getting in the way of people who want to do stuff, well, no surprise there...
But on the issue of capping the well - I read a good phrasing of this last night. This is not like Exxon Valdez. This is like Apollo 13. The drilling - and the capping - is at the limit of human tech. All the resources and talent that can be brought to bear on the problem are already mobilized.
Just for reference, the spilling well head lies about a thousand feet below the crush depth of any sub in the Navy. Not that a sub would do much good. It might as well be on another planet.
And the energy situation is such that yes, we drill where we can, with tech which is bleeding edge. We can make the consequences catastrophic for any company that tries and fails - and then we have none willing to try, and no oil produced close to our borders and in our control.
I'm not saying that more could be done, or that BP shouldn't be fined, or that foresight and prudence might have prevented this bad outcome.
What I'm saying is that I don't assume that prevention was necessarily possible - some things are only "possible" in a perfect world of perfect people, if at all.
Not all risk can be eliminated.
Lewy...about the time the USCG announced that there wasn't enough boom material in the entire US to contain the slick, I think I jumped to the "stop drilling off shore" side.
ReplyDeleteTrue, you cannot eliminate risk but you can prepare for consequences...even mitigate the risk however slightly. I'm not getting that feeling from the comments by Transocean, Haliburton or BP...sounds like bare minimum precautions were taken....with plenty of crossed arm finger pointing salutes to go with it.
One thing I do know, the federal government cannot fix it...as you said it is bleeding edge technology and we're not prepared. If they had qualified leaders in the government who allegedly oversaw these rigs, they might have mitigated the process risk...but that's just not the case and several folks will be ordered to fall on their swords....then they'll "re-organize" just watch.
Just as the Commanding General of my old organization was so ordered, over Katrina. Meanwhile the dickhead who lead the unprepared (and I mean totally unprepared for anything) in NOLA got re-elected Mayor.
I've been privy to some of the discussions of using dredges, federal or contractors, to skim the waters and the shallows...it's similar to pissin' in the wind, but might save some shoreline, or might not. It's been done before and with little success. Not holding my breath now....before the slick reaches littoral waters dredging is useless.
I'm told the nature of currents in the Gulf may allow dredged up sand berms to stop the slick off shore....only 2 tides a day and weak ones at that. Problem: no where near enough dredges to handle the job for the whole Gulf.
This is a great discussion. Thanks for your thoughts and insights, aridog and lewy.
ReplyDeleteDestroying our planet is not a risk I'm prepared to take when it comes to the "bleeding edge" technology of deep water oil drilling. If BP can't plug this damn gusher, it will pour contaminants into the Gulf for decades, if not centuries. This is NOT an acceptable risk.
We can SAFELY drill for oil in ANWAR. I'm willing to accept the risk and consequences of an oil transport tanker discharging its contents in an accident, or a ruptured transcontinental pipe.
The oil companies generate an obscene amount of profits. They should consider investing more of that money into insuring that WHEREVER they drill, accidents are containable and manageable.
Our bloated and inept government failed yet again, even with their myriad of so-called watchdog agencies. Why have so many gov't agencies, when they consistently fail or perform miserably?
Our courts should hold BP responsible for this disaster. The safety mechanisms and safety redundancies all FAILED on this rig.
Our need for energy is no reason to excuse BPs gross negligence in operating this rig. If going bankrupt is the result of their gross negligence and mismanagement, so be it.
Other oil companies will step up to fill the void, knowing that they WILL be held accountable for their business practices when those practices destroy our common environment.
Today: "top kill". BP has caved under pressure, and will broadcast the attempt live. Fingers crossed!
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of "caving under pressure": The One has decided to take time out of his fun-packed holiday weekend to fly over the spill and wave hello. Or something.
He's only been to the disaster area one other time; too busy with all that other presidential stuff, like scoring Paul McCartney tickets. Busy, busy, busy!
lady red - the leak won't go on forever - the ultimate plan B is to drill a relief well - problem is, that will take 3 months.
ReplyDeleteScant comfort to the Gulf, but at least the disaster will be regional, not a decades long planetary - scale disaster.
I'm sympathetic to the view that in this instance, the risks outweigh the benefits for deepwater drilling - at least until the causes of the accident are better understood.
BP ultimately stands to lose the right to drill in American waters - that's about the worst we can do to them. The market is already pricing this into BP stock.
Other companies will be watching carefully. It's possible that the rational choice is to avoid drilling. My guess is that the oil companies will discover that preventing spills is harder and more costly than they had modeled. The oil field in question is sufficiently large that another company may give it a go - or may decide that, while accidents may be made (say) 10 times less likely with better procedure, complete safety can never be guaranteed, and it's not worth the political risk.
It's not worth the environmental risk. Period. This isn't some conjured Global Warming over which we have dubious evidence and no control. This Gulf gusher is real, tangible and will wreck/is wrecking whole ecosystems. We truly do not know the downstream consequences of that.
ReplyDeleteI have no more faith in political government to manage these affairs than I do their idiotic management of wolves or wild horses, as lessor life forms and mere numbers, no mind paid to ruining genetic bases and creating problems worse than what they think they cure.
I've worked in a variety of industrial environments, albeit not oil fields, and have some knowledge of spill avoidance/remediation in manufacturing and processing. Everything I've read so far about this mess smells like Limburger cheese left out in the sun for a week in terms of precautions and preparedness.
I'll be happy to be wrong. I doubt I am.
What I'd like to know is where were their 'worst case' contingency plans. From my reading it seems that there were none. That only after the failure was thought given on how to stop it. It's no secret that when planning you always plan for the absolute worst case scenario. It would appear that neither BP nor any other petro company, not to mention the government, were prepared for this type of failure.
ReplyDeleteI can't quite agree that we should just leave the oil in the ground. While that makes ecological sense there will come a time when we will need that oil. Better to continue honing the science and technology for prevention of this type of disaster than just simply saying no.
Here's the live feed of BP's attempt to plug the well today. It's been running all day.
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ReplyDeleteHere's my comment to a local newspaper here today on the subject of ultra deep offshore drilling....
ReplyDelete"There's a movie, I think, named "A bridge too far" about Operation Market Garden during WWII. It's applicable here as a concept. Mile deep ocean floors and multiple mile deep oil reservoirs may be there, but they don't have to be drilled just because they're there. Sometimes we just need to not do things. Drill anywhere on land that is manageable, but leave the exotic deep to nature. We're obviously not equipped or prepared to deal with consequences of mistakes or accidents.
You can buy a car that will go 180 mph easily, if you have the money, but that doesn't mean any one should let you drive it that fast on a highway. Risk is only acceptable in dangerous efforts when the risk is singular to the risk taker, not when it impacts multiple others and hundreds of square miles of ecosystems.
In particular my supply of steam boiled crawdads next winter, dang it! Enough already. Srsly. Rlly.
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Here's how it looked this morning before the "top Kill" gear was lowered in to place.
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the info, everyone. I have to say I'm on the "no more offshore drilling" side now.
ReplyDeleteWell, that's a POV. That we should sometimes NOT do things. And NOT saying I disagree. But from my limited understanding of human nature if we can do it we will do it. Mostly for good but an awfully lot of plenty bad.
ReplyDeleteBesides, will the rest of the world follow our example. Doubtful. So we will lose not only the technological lead but the leadership of developing as near 'risk free' methods as can be possible. Methods that the rest of the world would be loathe to ignore. For example, Brazil, which will be drilling wells four times deeper than those in the Gulf. Will they desist doing so out of some noble and ecologically sound reason. Again, doubtful. Would massive blowouts there have any less effect on the worlds oceans. No.
The answer, again, is to return and imbue our National character with the basics. Integrity, honesty, the challenge of being exceptional in what we do.
Okay, off soapbox.
Luther said: "The answer, again, is to return and imbue our National character with the basics. Integrity, honesty, the challenge of being exceptional in what we do."
ReplyDeleteNo argument from me on that...however, those characteristics you cite do not seem to have been part of this conundrum overall. From day one the three parties to the mess have been pointing fingers at each other, which belies integrity.
Fact is the government is also deficient. There was less on site process inspection than provided for any and every highway paving project, vis a vis aggregate mix, even at the Podunk local levels.
The Chicago Tribune is reporting that "Top Kill" worked. Oh, happy day!
ReplyDeleteUp until a few minutes ago the live video feed showed considerable blow out still under way...however, a the moment it appears to have stopped...or the view has changed, can't tell which yet.
ReplyDeleteSeems to be showing more of the gear and no the blown out piping...but no noticeable sediment or gases appear to be drifting around either.
ReplyDeleteOpps...a little fishy just swam by. :))
Thanks for the update, Lady Red. That's great news. Let's hope it holds.
ReplyDeleteI know, Ari, those characteristics were lacking in that triad of finger pointing. Which was my point. And by the way, I never thought Bush should have undergone the opprobrium he did because of Katrina. I feel the same way about Obama and those holding him personally responsible for the lack of response to this spill. I could go on but won't.
Besides, I'm having a little party this weekend (for ninety people, a warm up for the TCKT gathering in the fall) :) and have to go back to work getting ready for same.
I'm watching Obama's presser. Why couldn't he have given us all this information WEEKS ago?
ReplyDeleteHe's pounding his chest and insisting that BP is the federal government's bitch. He's also insisting that he's been all over this "tragedy" since the rig sank to the bottom.
He's hammering on those two talking points, over and over and over and over and over.
My ears are numb, and my skepticism is knee-deep.
Holy crap, Jake Tapper just insinuated that Obama is a big fat liar when he says that everything that can be done IS being done.
ReplyDeleteObama is staying calm...so far.
He just called on Chuck Todd (surprise, surprise) then had to wait while Chuckie strapped on his knee pads and applied lip gloss. Gawd, I despise Todd.
ReplyDeleteJust remember, I'm watching this crappy presser so you all don't have to.
ReplyDeleteWho loves ya? Me! ;;)
Here's what you've missed in the last ten minutes:
ReplyDeleteyada yada yada yada yada it's not my fault! yada yada yada yada Bush did it! yada yada yada yada
Methinks the honeymoon is over. Helen Thomas about tore Obama's head off, and the rest of the press pool (other than Chuck "let me lick your presidential toe jam" Todd) is being fairly tough (compared to past pressers).
ReplyDeleteThe One is still keeping his poise.
Oh, thank God it's over...
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Let me wipe the drool off the front of my blouse and remove the ice pick I stuck in my left eye, and I'll be right with you.
Jeebus.
Uh...check out the drill hole Live Feed ...seems like a lot of stuff still pouring out. The time is right in the lower right corner of the frame, BTW.
ReplyDeleteAridog, I noticed that a few minutes ago. :(
ReplyDeleteWhen the robot submersible was in the image, they seemed to have trouble with the robot arm trying to use a wrench (literally) on a bolt head.
ReplyDeleteI can't tell if that's various gases escaping or oil as well....it does appear to be one of the ruptured pipes from earlier images.
Yuk
BTW...you can keep the live feed "live" on your PC by just minimizing the Windows Media Player...it will go independently to the open items bar on your screen for quick access later. I've been watching it since it started.
ReplyDelete"you can keep the live feed "live" on your PC by just minimizing the Windows Media Player"
ReplyDeleteOh, thanks! I've been reloading it.
"I'm having a little party this weekend (for ninety people"
ReplyDeleteWow Luther, that's quite a crowd! You must have a big house! And a big barbeque grill, too!
Luther...is the young lady you sent me images of invited? If so....
ReplyDeleteCan I come :))
The morning after... :D
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Hahaha!
ReplyDeleteLady Red, it started out with 15 or 20 folks and ballooned from there. My wife has a very extended family. But really, it's nothing. In '96 I managed the memorial service for those who were lost in the crash of an Air Force Reserve (939th Rescue) C-130 off the Oregon coast. We started with a guess of 300 attendees, which ended up being very close to 3,000. It went perfect, as I like planning and organizing and of course had everyone's full cooperation.
ReplyDeleteNot the above as an example but I enjoy seeing large groups of people get together and have a good time. I also gave parties at my house for 200 or so. Maybe I'm bragging now, I'll shut up.
Oh, my house is not that big, nor my backyard, nor my grill. It ain't the size but what you do with it, don't forget. I'm having fun activities (pool table, darts, horseshoes, ping pong, cards) that will have many on their feet for a good part of the time.
Ari. If I thought you might visit because of that young lady I would find and invite her. Your pictures here are perfect... for when I was twenty or so. One more reason why maturity sucks.
Luther said: "Your pictures here are perfect... for when I was twenty or so."
ReplyDeleteYou too? :(
You bet, me too. Those mornings, or afternoons after, when you'd rather stay asleep forever than find out what you did the night before.
ReplyDeleteLuther....were we separated at birth?
ReplyDeleteI couldn't watch his "press conference" as I can't stand hearing the sound of his voice reading the teleprompter for more than 3 seconds.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I'm encouraged to hear that the love affair with the press is beginning to turn, for the most part.
Wow, Luther, you've had some BIG parties!
ReplyDeleteAnd here I was worried that I wouldn't have enough seats for 16 if we had a family BBQ this summer...