"To the casual observer, the visiting Europeans at Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust memorial in the hills above Jerusalem, looked like any other foreign delegation. In the Garden of the Righteous Among Nations, where Gentiles who protected Jews are honored, they laid a wreath and posed for a photo before signing the visitors’ book with the solemn promise: “We will want to make sure that ‘never again’ really means never again.” "
However, these particular Europeans were members of Neo-Nazi and Fascist parties, come together as a force against islam, and although Israel needs all the help she can get, can she hold her nose tightly enough to block out the stink of these new friends?
In any case, why would Jews anywhere think these people could possibly be trusted not to return to their murderous old ways, even if islam is finally and permanently put into its place as a fifth-rate philosophy believed only by sixth-rate intellects?
I'm not sure what to make of this story. I hadn't heard of this delegation or their visit at all so it certainly didn't get wide air-play here. I googled the names and the story, and although they are categorized as neo-Nazis, I'm not so sure these people actually belonged to neo-Nazi parties. I wonder how much their message and their character is being distorted to suit the purposes of the left-wing media and intellectuals.
ReplyDeleteTundra Tabloids pointed me to Middle East Cowboys who give more balanced background.
My first reaction on reading this story is that I agree with you DWT that Israel needs to hold her collective nose with this kind of "support".
However I am rather torn. I do think these people should be given a fair hearing. As you say, we need all the support we can get, and if they turn against us afterwards - well, we're used to that sort of thing. We'll deal with it then.
Annie - I had not seen or heard anything about it, either - except for this story, and it does have the typical 'Newsweak' slant.
ReplyDeleteNow I will go and read the link you provided.
Interesting take on the situation. I suppose I should have realized that the great sin of most of these men was their refusal to worship at the altar of a self-hating multiculturalism, when the article included Geert Wilders.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that, by now, I would know better when it comes to anything read in Newsweek.
I'm not sure what to think either. Some mentioned may have good intentions, others not.
ReplyDelete"Perhaps it was also his sense of humor—or history—that propelled Strache to wear what he did at Yad Vashem. Instead of covering his head with a kippah as a gesture of respect at the Hall of Remembrance, where the ashes of Holocaust victims are kept, Strache wore a Biertönnchen—the red, blue, and black cap that identifies him as a lifelong member of Vandalia, a right-wing student fraternity long associated with Pan-German nationalism and anti-Semitism. Stadtkewitz, the German Freedom Party founder who was also part of the tour, says Strache was playing to Austrian TV cameras along for the ride. “It was a way for him to tell his followers, ‘Hey, look, this isn’t what it looks like,’?” he says."
annie said " I wonder how much their message and their character is being distorted to suit the purposes of the left-wing media and intellectuals."
ReplyDeleteThat's the rub. The media here have tried to link the tea party people to everybody from Hitler to Charles Manson.
I hope the visitor's intentions were good and that it is a sign of Israel getting more support, even if from unlikely sources.
Middle East Cowboys (I love it!) put it iinto perspective. Looks like the original article is another left-wing smear.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link, annie.
Interesting discussion. I wonder what the commenter known as DMoT would think. I could ask him... he and I traded some email in the past.
ReplyDeleteI do know that he progressed from being a Holocaust skeptic to accepting the vast bulk of the history of the Holocaust. I'll say he knows way more than I do about the exact operations late in the war, their names, where they happened, how they are documented, etc...
...and I can't believe DMoT has been the only young turk in latest movement supporting traditionalism and ethnic nationalism within Europe and the Agloshphere who has gone back and really looked at the history with an open mind and gone, "f**k, yeah, it happened"...
Euro neo's are the new Reality Based Community.
DwT. Should you pass by you might find this site interesting. I just ran into it, he seems to have a clear understanding.
ReplyDeleteDon't know if any of you heard, but there was a fatal bombing yesterday in Jerusalem.
ReplyDeleteAnd a series of mortar and Grad attacks on the south more or less non-stop since the weekend: over 50 mortars on one day, plus 5 or 6 Grads (katyushas) on major southern cities: Ashkelon, Ashdod and Beer Sheva.
Well, that's very interesting Luther, thanks.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that my joking comment 'No blood for Libyan oil' above, was far more correct than I realized.
Just gotta keep BP solvent until their next big blowout (I do so love a party!)
Umm, whoops - that blood/oil comment was on the thread about the 'kinetic military action' :-/ rather than this one.
ReplyDeleteAnnie, I'd heard nothing about that until I went to Drudge, today at work (pretty much everything else of interest is now blocked on my work PC) and then only in the context of the IDF considering rollout of the 'Iron dome' anti-missile system.
ReplyDeleteWhat is really needed is a system wherby the rockets are instantly tracked back to the launching point which is then engaged by overwhelming counter-battery (I nearly typed counter-bastardy) fire.
Well, Dances, the 'problem' is pretty evident in my mind. And, I guess, I cold be seen as only looking for agreement. Though really, I don't. I just stumble upon it on occasion.
ReplyDeleteDo I really need to place a 'u' in cold... though, somehow, in a different juxtaposition, cold could fit as well.
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