Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Election Open Thread

Today is the day. I'm very nervous.

I'll be watching the election results on Beck's new channel, and flipping occasionally to Fox. I'm heartened by reports of long lines and record voter turnout in Republican areas. I hope it's enough to steamroll the dependent class and the union gravy train.

We almost had a rumble today in one of my classes. A classmate (Wisconsin transplant)  blew up everyone's facebook newsfeed with hateful and disgusting anti-Romney pictures. Let's just say that the rest of the class wasn't happy. Conservatives are not only standing their ground, but fighting back. Enough is enough!

What are you all hearing and thinking?




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  1. CBS News reporting "Romney Dominates Among Whites in Virginia"

    "There is a large racial divide among voters. White voters - who are 70 percent of the electorate - are breaking 64 percent to 35 percent for Romney. That includes white women, who support Romney 61 percent to 39 percent. Black voters, who make up 20 percent of the electorate, overwhelmingly favor Mr. Obama: 94 percent to six percent. "

    65% is a solid block. As I expected.

    They will vote as a block and their candidate will lose. Because, well...you can't let in world historical levels of Central Americans and Middle Easterners without it, you know, having some effect........

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    1. Virgina and elsewhere....I suspect you've nailed the result down quite well. What is tragically funny is that person to person, middle easterners and Latin Americans, do NOT actually support even half of the Democratic positions. But they believe what their political organizers tell them and vote accordingly. If I were to go over my well educated, world traveled, good friend's store this morning and ask him if he is aware that he and our neighbors have re-elected a guy who has no problems with gay life style, or identifying more of his money to tax, etc etc., he'd be non-plused. Same as he was when I convinced him that our government was lying to him about the video vis a vis Benghazi. His first reaction had been: ... "what video?" Who knows anyone who didn't hear the "video" excuse for Benghazi? I know a few hundred.

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  2. Jourdan, CBS sucks. They make everything about race. It's not about race! It's the dependent class vs the working class. Socialists vs constitutionalists.

    Honestly, all the media are hacks. How can they "call" a state with only 3% of precincts reporting? Sometimes I feel like I live in a third world craphole. All the media, even The Blaze, are "calling" winners. Bah.

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    1. Trust me you don't live in a third world craphole. Me? I live in a third world craphole. LOL

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  3. West Virginny goes Red.

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  4. West Virginia is coal country. No surprise that Romney won there.

    I'm watching Ohio, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. And Florida!

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  5. Well, I say "won", but most of West Virginia's votes have not been counted.

    We seriously need to clamp down on the media. They're horrible.

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  6. South Car-oh-linny called for some Mormon candidate with executive hair.

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  7. Fox just called South Carolina for Obama with only 5,000 votes counted! Less than 1%! ARGHH!

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  8. It's just statistics. Once you're past a certain point in a sample, it becomes totally impossible for the other side to make up lost ground. It's not too bad. At least they're holding off on Florida and Virginny.

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  9. Jourdan, I think it's idiotic. It disenfranchises voters, and gets people like me VERY cranky.

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  10. Peachtree Street goes Latter Day

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    1. Wow, biased much? Or are you just being edgy?

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    2. Just drunk and trying to be funny. They can't all be gems! Anyway, apologies for this misfire.

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  11. The Civil War never really ended, did it? Look at this map!

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  12. Well, I did as I said I would. I walked into the polling location at 6:50 am, and found 11 others there before me.

    By the time the doors opened to actually go in and vote, there were at least 30 people in line.

    I felt pretty good about it, as not one (well, maybe one) was what I figured as an 0bama voter type, i.e.: all clean, obviously employed, etc.

    Of the 5 machines in the station, 2 were already out of service. When I asked, the precinct captain told me they had already called for repair on the other 2.

    Then I went to work.

    I saw more 'I Have Voted' stickers today than at any other election I can remember.

    THEN, I heard that in Philadelphia, 75 Republican poll watchers had been ejected from their legal and appointed places. OF COURSE, a judge granted them access again, but how many fraudulent votes were cast while they were gone?

    PLUS, the New Black Racist (Panther) Party was back 'protecting' the polling sites in Philly. I happened to see a story about a group of many SEALS, SpecOps, Rangers, Green Berets, etc who said they would be going to polling places to intimidate the intimidators. But I did not hear of any hospitalized Black Panthers, so maybe they did not go to Philly?

    In any case, Philadelphia and the surrounding counties make up approximately 1/3 of registered, legal voters in PA (and about 75% of fake, illegal voters) so I am sure that, wile Pennsylvanians votes for Romney, Philadelphia will give the EC votes to 0bama.

    Anybody want a big shitty, cheap?

    PA Gov Tom Corbett tried to get the EC vote in PA split by congressional districts this summer, but the bill ran out of steam, and time, before this election.

    I will do all I can to suport it before the next one.

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  13. Jourdan - you did not give a link for your map

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  14. Sorry, any map will do. Fox, CNN, etc. It's all the same. The Union and the Confederacy are runnin' neck and neck.

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  15. I'm watching Weaslezippers and HillBuzz. I am avoiding the TV like the plague.

    Information is to scattered to follow, but I saw that Romney won SC, Lady Red.

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  16. Hmm, our link to Weasel Zippers on the sidebar is broken

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  17. And I can't go back to Hillbuzz, since they held my very first comment for more than 3 hours and I told them to ESAD.

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  18. Try Weasel Zippers again. He had some problems over the summer and has a new URL -- but nobody fixed it. I just did.

    Give HillBuzz another look. He has been busy busy busy and probably just did not have a chance to get to it. He is very careful about avoiding flame wars and the like.

    Also, it has been slow to load with all of the traffic that has been on it. At least he didn't make you retype a capture in order to comment.

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  19. Hill Buzz says that the MSM won't call the race for Romney until the polls close out west.

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  20. Matt, you don't understand. I literally told the Hillbuzz people off in relatively crude terms.

    And I told them to cancel my new sign-up there, which they did.

    Besides, any site that started as a 'HillaryClintonWuzRobbed' whine does not excite my interest enough to go back.

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  21. It has been pretty uplifting to read them this week. The whole thing with Clinton helped shape him into who he is now. He worked closely with the CLinton campaign and specifically points to the machinations that were done to put Obama in -- and what he says is not the first time I had heard it.

    I understand if you don't want to go back, though. I would probably feel the same way.

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  22. Thanks for fixing Weasel Zippers, though

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  23. And here comes the Obama electoral vote wave. This is (sadly) going much as I expected: despite unprecedented levels of European-American support, Romney is going to lose by a wide margin.

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  24. I am going to FOX online - but I am not sure if it is for news news, or just to lust after Harris Faulkner.

    http://live.foxnews.com/

    Ooh, mama.

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  25. Umm, yes. I am drinking, sigh. 100 proof peppermint schnapps.

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  26. Yikes! That sounds harsh! Do you have whiskey?

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  27. OK, I just went for a long walk in the cold air.

    Moving as fast as I could after seeing the welfare queens in Philly, plus the voting dead adding up to more than all of us in the rest of the state.

    I think my sister was a bit shocked as I left with a 'wish I could nuke Philly' comment.

    THIS is why 'no welfare voting' should be the law of the land.

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  28. Jourdan, 100 proof schnapps, or (even cheaper) 100 proof vodka are my drinks of choice, depending on whether I want to drink with water or Ginger ale.

    Harsh? Yeah.

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    1. Well, my brother, it certainly is a night for drinking. It's one thing to know what is going to happen; but it's damn painful watching it unfold in real time.

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  29. Well, at least the ol' Mittster is good at losing. I expect a real stemwinder of a concession speech. And, then, well deserved oblivion...

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  30. So when do the arrests of conservative leaders start?

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  31. We are so screwed.

    Reynolds doesn't usually post stuff that radical without some ameliorating optimistic comment. I take it that this is about how he's feeling.

    So... Matt... Fay... How's Canada, eh?

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    1. When I came up here we had to get the medical exam, the FBI check, and everything else for my son because he was under 23, even though he was not coming up.

      We asked the attorneys if we really had to do all of that. They told me that, for me, it all depended on whose desk my application landed on. Once person may say it was fine but another might deny my application and make me start all over if I didn't include his stuff. In either case, though, we could never sponsor my son if I did not include his information.

      I am glad we included it.

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    2. We have a cat. Do they let cats in?

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  32. Does Canada need nurses? Vancouver sounds nice, and I'm already a Canuck fan.

    Noah and I are in utter shock.

    We refuse to work our asses off for Obama to "redistribute" our tax money to green crooks and welfare slugs, while our country falls apart at the seams.

    I feel sick this morning.

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  33. This was not awesome news to wake up to. And it was ALL OVER the TVs here (and everywhere here has a tv in places of business).

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    1. Funny thing you mention TV's in business places. In some fairly remote parts of Asia 40+ years ago it was the same thing...few TV's in homes, but every business had one or more. Everybody just hung out, wherever there were TV's.

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  34. Come on up, everybody. Now I have to seriously consider whether to become a Canadian citizen or not -- and that is nothing I say lightly. Although if I do, I still have to file with the IRS for something like five years.

    So how long will it be before the people wanting their free Obama Phones and free abortions can't have them because there is no one left to pay for the?. How long will it be before there are not many businesses left because law and the NLRB have all but guaranteed that every work place is unionized?

    How long will it be that the leftist dream of making everyone equally miserable under socialism come true?

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    1. Matt, if it were my situation - being married to a Canadian, having a life in Canada - I'd be working on that Canadian citizenship thing...

      The IRS will let you go when they are good and ready, not before. The Treasury has the power to make any US citizen a financial pariah all over the world. FATCA will follow you everywhere. When the next crisis comes, the door will slam shut and US citizenship (and US tax obligations) will become permanent. You will not be able to relinquish them. Canadian banks which need to deal in US dollars (and so must comply with US Treasury regs) will not bank you if you're not in compliance with US law. Like I said, this may become a permanent situation.

      This is really sui generis as no government has ever had this kind of power over the world financial system. I fully expect it to be used against US citizens. Leave while you can.

      If I choose not to follow you it will only be because I don't have a life there and I have a marginal attachment to my current environment which outweighs the profound risk to my property.

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  35. Well, one of the first things I will do is consult with my CPA. I will divert as much of my income as I possibly can to keep it from going to the Obama regime and the slugs. Retirement accounts, loopholes, maximum charity (which I've never itemized on my tax returns, but will now).

    I've always been proud to pay my taxes, and never looked for ways to prevent paying my contribution to our nation. Those days are OVER.

    It's a start. One small step of many.

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  36. Well, the guy with no plan beat the guy with an unbelievable plan. But at least the GOP candidate had the past track record of being capable of implementing and managing "hard" change, along with the capability to work with Congress. Let's hope Obama represents merely a lame duck President from Day One- January 1 is going to force him to make a balanced budget Job One. For four years...

    I'm glad to see the end of Ryan- a pol lifer/trougher, who could not even carry his own state. Muppet.

    @ lady red: Yes, Canada needs nurses. But not nurses who think that Canada represents any sort of escape from socialism or government indebtedness. This country is a fiscal basket case, supported on natural resource revenues. The Leader of Canada's Offical Opposition is a joint French citizen, FFS!- THAT should tell you everything about our lunatic political systemm.

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  37. Good morning Earl! It's good to see you.

    I have no illusions about Canada, really. I'm also not one to leave when the going gets arduous. :)

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  38. I've pretty much stayed away from blogs, friendly and otherwise, for the past week. I'm sorry, but the affair in Benghazi and the federal response to "Sandy" in the North east have been just too much for me. Depression doesn't begin to describe my emotions over both incidents. Because I know the truth of what has happened and what has not happened, I am damn near clinical so to speak. I'm not self-analyzing either, because I've checked with associates in the Army and Marine corps, plus ESF-3 responders for FEMA, to see if I'd lost my mind. Nope. Most of them think it is even worse. This isn't healthy. So for, a change, I've kept my mouth shut.

    The election? Yes, I was concerned...and I am dumbfounded that 2008 has happened again. There is no rational explanation. What I know is happening in federal governance really doesn't have much to do with the figure head we stick on the White House. I used to think I was a tad nuts to presume something like executive bureaucracy could grow more powerful that the Presidency itself. I was wrong...it, the bureaucracy, has grown to suppress anything contrary to its self-preservation...and more notably, its expansion and growth. Trust me, Obama, nor anyone else, dares challenge the institutionalized order....they would not survive it.

    I'll try to write a more cogent piece later, but I'll summarize my alamr points here and now:

    1. Benghazi....based upon my own personal first hand experience I KNOW that Executive branches of government knew, absolutely, what was happening in Benghazi and Tripoli within 10 minutes of the start of organized violence. Both Benghazi's Consulate and "Annex" had "Duty Officers" on watch, as they always do, 24/7, everywhere in the world. I have sat on some of those watches. Those Duty Officers notified everyone concerned, in the middle east and Washington, DC., within 10 minutes. You are required to do so as part of the "watch" ....by various secure communication means. It is a scramble to get all the reporting done in the prescribed time frame. This is necessary so that a response can be timely, and no one element goes rogue. To say that this time "we didn't know" is utter bullshit.

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  39. continuation...

    2. Tropical Storm Sandy hits the north east. I sat here fat, dumb and happy thinking FEMA and federal, state and local responses would be similar to my personal experience...working in them. I was completely wrong. Several times I've remarked right here that federal response to Katrina began two-three days prior to land fall and that the protocol was to pre-position manpower, material, and matériel in advance of the storm arrival...e.g., find a hole and hunker down, weather the land fall, then be in place to provide aid immediately on site. A combined federal forcer of various agencies and military departments deployed in front of the storm...this did not happen, nor was it even roughly planned from everything I've been able to dig out. One example of many...Bottled Water Bid ....notably issued by Homeland Security-FEMA directly, bypassing those who have historically handled ESF-3 functions and did the prepositioning. W.T.F?

    What happened in the northeast is a culmination of an agency's unrestrained growth, ... in this case, developing an entirely new acquisition element in spite of the face that GSA, USACE, and DoD already have extensive global systems. FEMA once coordinated funding and utilized existing agencies for the actual work in the field, depending upon the nature of the disaster. NOW....HS-FEMA gets the funding, keeps it, and tries to emulate operations they have no experience in. If you are thirsty or cold on Staten Island...no temp shelter materials nor water was pro-positioned. Sorry about that. Blame Bush, blame Obama, blame the man in the moon....no matter, they are no longer in control and can't be in control.

    Benghazi? Concern yourselves with the degree that our military has been co-opted for purely political purposes. Very senior people looking you in the eye, lying to you, knowing that you know they are lying, about "sensitive" events. The shuffle in flag and general rank officers alone should give us pause. But it doesn't.

    We grown accustomed to being lied to, to lying in general, and we no longer may control our fate.

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    1. Thank you for the post ari.

      There are two nightmares haunting conservatives:

      1) Obama is in charge and has a plan
      2) Obama is not in charge, and haz no planz.

      You provide ample evidence of 2).

      But regardless, one of these simply must be true.

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    2. We grown accustomed to being lied to, to lying in general, and we no longer may control our fate.

      Yes. It's a frightening thing to be transitioning to a true bureaucracy. :-(

      I don't have your insider knowledge of the inner workings of what would have transpired in Lybia, but I know enough to know that we knew EXACTLY what was happening, and could certainly have done much more. And it MUST go all the way to the top.

      I have a friend who is currently helping to coordinate relief efforts on Staten Island. Guess who's doing the heavy lifting? Yup, churches. FEMA's nowhere to be found.

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    3. Lyana...vis a vis your comment about FEMA presence on Staten Island versus churches, etc.

      FEMA, as an integral organization within the Department of Homeland Security, doesn't DO anything...they "process" things. As DHS has grown exponentially these "processes," such as at FEMA have grown to include deliverables .... that they do NOT know how to deliver let alone position. The ice example I cited is classic....before the current evolution of FEMA, ice & water acquisition was handed by existing Department of the Army acquisition offices, planned in advance and activated before land fall...and shipments met on shore by personnel who went to a threatened area ahead of land fall and hunkered down. Reason: much easier to get material in and move about before the winds reach 100+mph...eh?

      In short, "delivery" of things, such as water, temporary housing, ice, emergency foods, etc etc. don't get there in time...if at all, anymore. WTF? The ice issue I cited is apparently typical these days....lots of FEMA ice arrived as soon as every bodega and 7-11 had already re-filled their supplies of ice.

      Hello?

      If you look at ESF-3 [Emergency Support Function # 3] as currentlyu defined by DHS/FEMA you will see that DHS/FEMA is now a full partner ("primary agency") for deliverables and there's the rub. Instead of directing, they now presume to "deliver" what they haven't a clue how to do. BUT!!!!...the "Process" is carried out....the most important thing!!!

      Once upon a time, before the DHS development (an Orwellian concept if there ever was one), multiple agencies reacted to disasters upon clear directions (from FEMA) without the competition for the funding now more important than the actual relief effort. See, FEMA didn't buy ice for Staten Island because it had to do so...it chose to do so...in reactionary fashion, not pro-actively, by-passing the immense standing acquisition offices and staffs of both Department of Defense and General Services Administration. A wholly "new" acquisition corps has been created within DHS/FEMA as the solicitation I cited shows.

      Trust me, one thing the federal government didn't need was another purchasing arm. Department of Defense alone has the "Defense Logistics Agency" (DLA) which is capable of acquiring anything anywhere at any time.

      Never the less, I can tell you that even within Defense there were and are agencies that wish to do their own purchasing and set up to do so in conflict with DLA, not to mention Part 2, 48 CFR, the Federal Acquisition Regulations...codified in fiscal law. Using DLA intelligently and appropriately saves about 75% per expenditure in my experience. Can't have that can we?

      It is all about the money, the power, the staffing, the processes, and little to do with efficiency.

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    5. Addition: By way of reference to efficiency of earlier methods, let me cite 1969. By simply following the established emergency requisition procedures within the DLA system I could acquire a blood plasma refrigerator for delivery on the DMZ in a war zone and have it on site in 24 hours. Not guessing....we did so when the critical need arose in 1969. The exact same processes can be sued today, under MILSTRIP or FEDSTRIP requisitioning procedures...hell I did it personally for over 40+ years.

      The "system" wasn't broken...until bureaucrats set about fixing it.

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  40. @ Ari:

    Interesting insights. Benghazi should have sunk Obama's election chances- but may-yet sink Hilary's 2016 bid. When POTUS and SecState were warned on various occasions well in advance of a well-planned terror attack on a consulate, and when the CIA was capable of watching events unfold in real time but were ordered to "stand down", then the buck has to stop at the WH.

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  41. This feels like 9/11 all over again; the way I want to see the world has been irrevocably shattered. What I mean is that on 9/11/01, I could no longer deny the fact that there were hundreds of thousands of people who would be quite happy to kill me and mine, and millions more who would cheer them on. On 11/6/12, I could no longer deny the fact that the majority of the voting populace of the country of my birth are mired in identity politics and/or class warfare and/or really have bought into the "give me stuff" mentality. I don't want to believe it, but the hard, cold numbers are staring me in the face.

    The sad reality is that most of the voting populace does not hold my values (moral, governmental or fiscal), nor to they value the Judeo/Christian and Western principles that formed the USA. Nor are they likely to be pursuaded. It is a bitter realization.

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    1. Yep. Everywhere I went today, people were in utter shock. Frozen. It was eerie. I even saw people crying.

      Noah and I are still in a state of shock, holding our breath and waiting to see what's next...

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    2. I feel numb - not sure what to do with it all. I want to have hope that the US can come out of the death spiral, but after seeing these election results, there's no denying the extent of the decay. A nation cannot survive when the majority of the populace is entirely absorbed by appearance and the frivilous now, when one side knows that it can break the rules without consequence.

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  42. Ari, thanks for your insightful post.

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