It is interesting that, as jobs disappeared, so did the white population.
They followed jobs, or at least went elsewhere to find work.
The black population, steeped for a few decades in the victim culture of the modern left, did not.
If you look closely at the crime graphic, you will also see that the white majority section of the city had a single shooting reported during the time period they showed.
Again, a result of the victim and entitlement mindset.
And yet, 'White Flight' seems to be the major theme of many of those who commented on the National Post story?
I certainly can't blame the whites for leaving. But I certainly can blame those who stayed, mostly black, I am sorry to say, and expected others to take care of them.
Worse yet, if and when things get to civil war conditions, I hope the remaining whites in Detroit are ready to go, too.
If they do not, then I fear that they, as well as those in other cities with large minority (?!?!?!?!) populations will be brutally attacked and massacred.
Think Reginald Denny on a nationwide scale.
While I know that there are millions of black Americans who love their country as much as I do, if the civil war that I see coming (and pray does not) begins that way, then blacks in areas where they are few in number had better be ready to run, as well.
Americans are more divided, along racial and political lines, than at any time I have seen in my life.
I do not want this situation to devolve into race war, but I deeply fear that it will.
Then the left will have succeeded in what has been its primary purpose for more than 100 years, the fundamental alteration, not to say destruction, of the US.
Dances, I'm too young to remember the mid/late 60s. Things really worse race-wise now than then?
I do remember e.g. forced desegregation in the '70s in South Boston. (Which I now interpret as Establishment WASPs lording it over the Irish as much as anything to do with "equality"). Regardless of the motivation the tensions were pretty bad then.
Lewy, things are definitely worse now in regard to race relations.
I recall, in the middle and late 60's, in most of the country, it was 'we're finally equal, now we gotta get education and jobs!'
Now, it seems to have become 'whitey owes us! We gotta get EBT cards, affirmative action ( without 'acting white' by actually studying) and reparations!'
Again, I know there are millions of black Americans who do NOT feel that way. Within the black community at large, those people are known as house Ni**uhs, or Uncle Toms.
As to the bussing debacle, that was more federal courts lording it over everyone, making themselves into legislatures, as well as judges, and that was, so far as I can tell, the beginning of the turn-around in the direction that relations had been moving since the early 60's.
I'm too young to remember the mid/late 60s. Things really worse race-wise now than then?
"Things" are almost immeasurably worse now than in the 1960's and I'm old enough to recall the 60's well...my college and go-to-war days. The real downturn occurred in the early 70's from my point of view...and the city center essentially died while I was 10,000 miles away for 3 years.
Once upon a time we (black, white, brown, yellow, red...) could talk, we could socially associate and congregate, and we could agree on issues that needed remedy. Then the race-hustlers took over and divided us. I was married to a beautiful Korean woman in 1972 and I re-joined my primary social crowd in the city, coincidently mostly black folks. What once was a seamless and comfortable relationship had become awkward and uncomfortable, for my friends especially who (seemingly) suddenly felt the need to 'escort" Nina or me to the frigging bathroom at larger events such as "cabarets" that are almost always 95% black and used to include some nostalgic music in the be-bop, do-wop,and R&B genres. The friction became more than the associations could bear...and we separated ways.
I have never forgiven those people who made race a victim-hood issue, a political niche, and I never will. Those people killed America, with a cancer of division, and one of them & his spouse resides in the White House today.
Modern Jazz and Motown, both Detroit genres, disappeared in a fog of gangsta-rap and shit music. In the 80s' a some joyful sound did re-emerge in Techno and Electronic Dance Music and continues even now...but it is not enough. Today I have a 40 year old daughter who has moved in to the downtown central city core, in a pricey loft, and has the same attitudes about people that I grew up with. Kim measures you as worthwhile until you either fulfill that or prove less worthy. She's a financial management professional and we talk now and then over dinners and now she is beginning to ask where the young of today get their exceptional entitlement ideas. I have no answer.
As for "white flight"...it occurred, and black flight of anyone who could also occurred, and still is occurring. Watch out, folks, this disease is coming to a city near you soon. Detroit is merely the "trailer." New pioneers like my daughter may not be enough to save any of it.
Did you ever read "Radical Chic and Mau-mauing the Flak Catchers", lewy?
It's a quick read, I'd highly recommend it. Although it's wickedly tongue-in-cheek, Wolfe certainly recounts with accuracy the co-dependent relationship of white liberals and the Black Panthers.
I think racial animosity is much worse now - on both sides. Much worse.
Again, I know there are millions of black Americans who do NOT feel that way. Within the black community at large, those people are known as house Ni**uhs, or Uncle Toms.
Exactly. Just look at the recent treatment of RGIII and Tim Scott...
The consequence of holding no one responsible for anything, except, of course, those who have nothing to do with the problem.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting that, as jobs disappeared, so did the white population.
ReplyDeleteThey followed jobs, or at least went elsewhere to find work.
The black population, steeped for a few decades in the victim culture of the modern left, did not.
If you look closely at the crime graphic, you will also see that the white majority section of the city had a single shooting reported during the time period they showed.
Again, a result of the victim and entitlement mindset.
And yet, 'White Flight' seems to be the major theme of many of those who commented on the National Post story?
I certainly can't blame the whites for leaving. But I certainly can blame those who stayed, mostly black, I am sorry to say, and expected others to take care of them.
Worse yet, if and when things get to civil war conditions, I hope the remaining whites in Detroit are ready to go, too.
DeleteIf they do not, then I fear that they, as well as those in other cities with large minority (?!?!?!?!) populations will be brutally attacked and massacred.
Think Reginald Denny on a nationwide scale.
While I know that there are millions of black Americans who love their country as much as I do, if the civil war that I see coming (and pray does not) begins that way, then blacks in areas where they are few in number had better be ready to run, as well.
Americans are more divided, along racial and political lines, than at any time I have seen in my life.
I do not want this situation to devolve into race war, but I deeply fear that it will.
Then the left will have succeeded in what has been its primary purpose for more than 100 years, the fundamental alteration, not to say destruction, of the US.
Dances, I'm too young to remember the mid/late 60s. Things really worse race-wise now than then?
DeleteI do remember e.g. forced desegregation in the '70s in South Boston. (Which I now interpret as Establishment WASPs lording it over the Irish as much as anything to do with "equality"). Regardless of the motivation the tensions were pretty bad then.
Lewy, things are definitely worse now in regard to race relations.
DeleteI recall, in the middle and late 60's, in most of the country, it was 'we're finally equal, now we gotta get education and jobs!'
Now, it seems to have become 'whitey owes us! We gotta get EBT cards, affirmative action ( without 'acting white' by actually studying) and reparations!'
Again, I know there are millions of black Americans who do NOT feel that way. Within the black community at large, those people are known as house Ni**uhs, or Uncle Toms.
As to the bussing debacle, that was more federal courts lording it over everyone, making themselves into legislatures, as well as judges, and that was, so far as I can tell, the beginning of the turn-around in the direction that relations had been moving since the early 60's.
I'm too young to remember the mid/late 60s. Things really worse race-wise now than then?
Delete"Things" are almost immeasurably worse now than in the 1960's and I'm old enough to recall the 60's well...my college and go-to-war days. The real downturn occurred in the early 70's from my point of view...and the city center essentially died while I was 10,000 miles away for 3 years.
Once upon a time we (black, white, brown, yellow, red...) could talk, we could socially associate and congregate, and we could agree on issues that needed remedy. Then the race-hustlers took over and divided us. I was married to a beautiful Korean woman in 1972 and I re-joined my primary social crowd in the city, coincidently mostly black folks. What once was a seamless and comfortable relationship had become awkward and uncomfortable, for my friends especially who (seemingly) suddenly felt the need to 'escort" Nina or me to the frigging bathroom at larger events such as "cabarets" that are almost always 95% black and used to include some nostalgic music in the be-bop, do-wop,and R&B genres. The friction became more than the associations could bear...and we separated ways.
I have never forgiven those people who made race a victim-hood issue, a political niche, and I never will. Those people killed America, with a cancer of division, and one of them & his spouse resides in the White House today.
Modern Jazz and Motown, both Detroit genres, disappeared in a fog of gangsta-rap and shit music. In the 80s' a some joyful sound did re-emerge in Techno and Electronic Dance Music and continues even now...but it is not enough. Today I have a 40 year old daughter who has moved in to the downtown central city core, in a pricey loft, and has the same attitudes about people that I grew up with. Kim measures you as worthwhile until you either fulfill that or prove less worthy. She's a financial management professional and we talk now and then over dinners and now she is beginning to ask where the young of today get their exceptional entitlement ideas. I have no answer.
As for "white flight"...it occurred, and black flight of anyone who could also occurred, and still is occurring. Watch out, folks, this disease is coming to a city near you soon. Detroit is merely the "trailer." New pioneers like my daughter may not be enough to save any of it.
This truth needs to be talked about on a national level.
DeleteDid you ever read "Radical Chic and Mau-mauing the Flak Catchers", lewy?
ReplyDeleteIt's a quick read, I'd highly recommend it. Although it's wickedly tongue-in-cheek, Wolfe certainly recounts with accuracy the co-dependent relationship of white liberals and the Black Panthers.
I think racial animosity is much worse now - on both sides. Much worse.
Again, I know there are millions of black Americans who do NOT feel that way. Within the black community at large, those people are known as house Ni**uhs, or Uncle Toms.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Just look at the recent treatment of RGIII and Tim Scott...