Friday, December 16, 2011

The Good News and the Bad News

Right Wing News has published a list of the 40 top Conservative Web Sites. For reasons I cannot fathom, we are not on this list. Hmmm.

However, it is an interesting list. There are a number of familiar names on the list, but there are also some of which I have not heard. Check out the list. Maybe you will find some new blogs to follow.

18 comments:

  1. I don't really consider anyone here conservative. Although if you want me to consider you conservative, just tell me.

    It just seems like people here have common sense. I know there are areas we don't all agree. I like that. Better conversation. Also, since there's mutual respect and we prefer not to be nasty to each other, we have to think out what we say in those areas of disagreement before we say it.

    It makes us re-evaluate our own arguments to make them stronger or change our minds.

    I like it.

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  2. Me, me! I'm a conservative!!

    Although, I do have some unorthodox (for a neo-con) views on certain subjects that would put me in with the nut-case libs :-)

    But I'm 100% on board with smaller government, more state's rights, pro-life, stong supporter of the 2nd amendment, believe in capitalism, want to give "hand-up rather than a hand-out", etc., etc.

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  3. OK, florrie. I will remember that. :)

    I didn't mean that I was trying to take someone's self-selected belief label away, just that - to me - political labels all come with so much baggage now. I throw the labels on people when they act them all the time, but if someone has an argument or position that I can understand, I don't immediately label.

    For the record, I do not consider myself either, but my liberal family members think I am a raving conservative and several conservative associates think I'm a raving liberal.

    I'm pro-life, want smaller government, think what people do in their own homes is none of my business (my attitude towards drug policy), think the government should be out of the marriage business completely (i.e., we all have civil unions and go to a church if we feel like it to be married), and I like guns. And pit bulls. Love pit bulls.

    On the other hand, I received pre-natal care from Planned Parenthood for my #2 daughter - they were amazing with me. There was no pushing of abortion, they were 100% supportive of my homebirth decision. So, although I am pro-life, I just can't find it in myself to stigmatize PP entirely. Just their leadership, if that makes sense.

    I could go on and on, but my point is just that labels make me see labels before a person's other arguments.

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  4. I think common sense is the proper way of putting it, AFW. I am sure that there are some things I think that may not fall under the conservative banner. However, that might be why "conservatism" has trouble in the arena of ideas: conservatives do not drink Koolade and spout talking points. Conservatives think for themselves. Conservatives, or those with common sense, show more tolerance than a liberal ever does. We just expect responsibility to go with it.

    Respect is the legs upon which this Kitchen Table stands. I have probably disagreed with everyone here at some point. But I also know that the views of others are well considered and open to reconsideration upon reflection on new information.

    This would be a boring place if all we did was repeat each other.

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  5. It just seems like people here have common sense. I know there are areas we don't all agree. I like that. Better conversation. Also, since there's mutual respect and we prefer not to be nasty to each other, we have to think out what we say in those areas of disagreement before we say it.
    Well said, afw. I love that about this place.

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  6. I have probably disagreed with everyone here at some point.

    I disagree.

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  7. WELL! I disagree with your disagreeing!

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  8. Okay, at least we're in agreement : P

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  9. I do have to say that I've been really surprised by just how good some of the discussions are, here at the table. Honestly.

    It makes me feel a little guilty about posting inane banter.

    (just a little though)

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  10. We love inane banter.

    But all of us here have been burned by too many cases of "Itakemysleftooseriouslyisitis" for us to want to pull it here.

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  11. Yeah... I hear you.

    As for the OP (that is what you college kids call it, right?) there are several familiar names on the list, but the only one I've read in the last couple of years is The Corner (it's on my "daily reads" list, right next to TCKT).

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  12. #6 #7 #8 #9

    Man, I love spontaneous self-referential paradoxes! The best things in life, they are.

    I'm leaning more to the "ultra-cynical" wing myself. I'd vote for Aridog if he'd run. Just to see the press conferences would be worth it. He's too smart to fall for that though.

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  13. AFW said: It just seems like people here have common sense. I know there are areas we don't all agree. I like that. Better conversation. Also, since there's mutual respect and we prefer not to be nasty to each other, we have to think out what we say in those areas of disagreement before we say it.

    And Matt said: Respect is the legs upon which this Kitchen Table stands.

    AFW and Matt, you really hit the nail on the head. Your words sum up our community in a nutshell! We may disagree on all kinds of issues, but we always respect each other.

    I enjoy everyone's company so much, but it's more than that; I feel honored and blessed to be included in such a witty and brilliant group.

    Florrie, I love you too, and everyone here! And yes alphie, we adore inane banter! And music! And cartoons, and goofy subject matter! It's what keeps us semi-sane in a crazy world.

    Er...we are semi-sane, aren't we?

    *crickets*

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  14. Am I a conservative? When it comes to money, I guess I am. When it comes to social policy, I'm more of a compassionate realist; I firmly believe that the "haves" should voluntarily give a hand up to the "have-nots" who are willing to better themselves and their community. As far as government's intrusion into our lives, I'm more of a libertarian.

    I believe life begins at conception and is sacred. I believe "marriage" is a religious construct, and "civil union" is a government construct. Government should butt out of church business.

    I believe that US social policy regarding blacks and AmerInds has been horrendous, and needs to be completely scrapped. People will NEVER succeed if they're not afforded the dignity of paying their own way.

    I could go on and on, but it would bore you to tears.

    Aridog for President! I'm in! :D

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  15. Is there still time to get Aridog into Iowa?

    Lady Red, I agree with you on being a compassionate realist. However, I think the bar should be held high.

    couple of days ago I watch an episode of "Beyond Scared Straight." There was a fourteen year-old girl who took pride in the fact that she frequently engaged in unprotected sex (the oldest guy being 18). How many girls are there like that out there? I have read that there are sexually active 12 year olds. That is sick. That is sad. But the message seems to be that 12-14 year olds cannot help but f*** like rabbits, so we may as well let them. While I am sure this happened 60 years ago, it was not that big of a problem. Why not? Could it be that the messages from the entertainment industry do have an effect? Why can't we let children be children? They will be healthier and happier in the long run. As for that 14-year-old girl, after she went through the program she now engages in protected sex. While I recognize that is an improvement, it is still sad.

    I also agree that the “haves” should help the “have-nots” as long as those “have-nots” are doing their best to improve themselves on their own. Raising a generation to believe that it cannot accomplish anything without forcing someone to give it to them is not only dangerous to society, it is dangerous to those it is supposed to “help.” In reality, such programs put people into a form of slavery the way a frog is boiled in water – they do not realize it until it is too late.

    So who is Aridog’s Veep? Lot’s of good candidates here, but I can’t help but think that AWF would make Sarah Palin look like a marshmallow.

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