A temple complex in Turkey that predates even the pyramids is rewriting the story of human evolution.with this...
Oldest 'writing' found on 60,000-year-old eggshellsand realize how little we really know of our ancient forebears. Such finds also give more credence to authors of works such as this.
Which then gives rise to statistics such as this...
JESS3 / The State of The Internet from JESS3 on Vimeo.
H/T - Laughing Squid
A rather large correction. I wasn't near my source documents while making this post, and with an old adled brain on a Google search convinced myself that the book I referenced in the post was correct. It wasn't. This is the book I was alluding to. The Lost Civilizations of the Stone Age
Apologies. Though my thoughts still stand.
And yes, I have read that book. Very interesting theories, backed up with many facts, on the beginnings and rise of modern civilization. Let's just say it didn't start 10,000 years ago. Oh, no mysticism involved.
ReplyDeleteLuther, this is fascinating stuff - thanks for posting it!
ReplyDeleteSome time ago I took a look at Graham Hancock's theories - which are more plausible than some give them credit for, and which these new discoveries seem to make even more plausible.
Hancock falls in my I WANT TO BELIEVE category - which means, sadly, he's probably wrong...
They are very interesting discoveries I think, Lewy. I take not yet the interpretation so far given, but it is a starting point I suppose. Just that, I think, everyone in the 'industry' need have a more open mind as to how all this shit started.
ReplyDeleteYep, have known and read Hancock for years, and feel much the way you do about him and his theories. Sadly, we'll not live long enough to know whether he is wrong or not.
Fascinating is right. I have often wondered how we really "know" what we know. Beyond the scinetific method I mean. Whether there was ever a temporal system of record keeping that vanished because it was not carved in to rock. It all began for me as a kid when my fascination with Native American art forms began. At times there seems to be things there that shouldn't be there from rational evidence. I have a modern era Onieda carved sculpture that once I saw it I had to have it...and fortunately I could afford it. I look at it every day and I feel good. Not a totem per se...but seems to exhibit connections within life that I feel but cannot prove. Part of that is my ignorance, and part of it is just wonder.
ReplyDeleteAri - the cultivation of wonder is a noble pursuit, to be sure.
ReplyDeleteI ran across a new theory of "mind architecture" which looks interesting: Confabulation Theory.
"Confabulation" as the root process of thought. Well, that would sure explain a great deal, eh?! ;)
Lewy...Scholarpedia says: "...a phylogenetic outgrowth of movement and that cognition utilizes the same neural circuitry that was originally developed for movement. "
ReplyDeleteYeah, that explains much, except for the demigogues who have de rigeuer one track minds (topical stasis dementia)...e.g., reminding of "robotic" hip hop dance...aw, hell, hip hop dance in general...excited redundant loops of erratic movements not otherwise found in nature :)
I suppose we could call those one-trick-pony-thought folks developmentally stagnant, eh?
Actually the confab theory sounds intersting. As for "wonder"...I've always had a modicum of it...when observing something, and reading or hearing the conclusions reached about it, I've always thought "there must be more to it, if time related, then there must be something earlier, perhaps lost...etc." Used to make my "skinner box" professors nuts.
Now confab theory would explain a lot (*alot*) about why in the orignal iteration of F-111 fighter bombers, where analog bar chartography symbols were used in cockpit guages, instead of analog radius symbols represented by regular circular guages & needles, that pilots occasionally became confused by the indications. Once heads up displays came along in later aircraft that utilized virtual reality overlaid by analog measures & digital information, they didn't appear to have a similar problem.
Muscle memory for the brain?
Not so far fetched in fact, IMO...when I observe "instinctive" reactions in wild animals...that are usually misinterpreted by lay individuals..."suspicion" as "hate" for example, when, excepting certain discrete reactions, usually taught or induced, animals don't "hate"...that seems a human evolution. "Fight or Flee" is a hardwired reaction to stimuli that implies threat...nothng to do with "hate."
Intersting theory I'll look more into time permitting.
Great thread, Luther! I love stuff like this. When I was young, I was hooked on Erich von Däniken's books. Remember those?
ReplyDeleteLady Red...me too. Other peoples' questions and pondering help me to know I'm not totally nuts.
ReplyDeleteHell, I'm still fascinated by Navajo Mudhead images and Anasazi musical instruments of the woodwind variety. Kachina dolls seem to have whole stores to tell within themselves.
Or maybe I really am nuts :-))
Oh, you're nuts, alright! :D
ReplyDeleteWe're a mixed bag of salty, cantankerous nuts around here. In an elegant sort of way, of course. :)))
Wow! Fascinating articles, it just boggles the mind!
ReplyDeleteWhatever mysterious rituals were conducted in the temples, they ended abruptly before 8000 B.C., when the entire site was buried, deliberately and all at once, Schmidt believes.
A mystery for the ages, eh? Well, I think the "wrong" book sounds very interesting, I wrote it down to see if my library carries it (and did you notice the author :-).
Great post.
I agree...great post, Luther, for these reasons:
ReplyDelete1. Interesting subject matter.
2. Nice not to be about politics.
3. Great because it got Lewy & I agreeing on something :-)))
Ari, the mudhead's are fascinating! ;)
ReplyDeleteMaybe we can start a LOLmudhead site!
Lewy...good one!
ReplyDeleteActually, it looks more like me lately, in fact....McCain that is, not the Mudhead.